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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Slab issue</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6599-slab-issue/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[So I have glued up the slabs and after removing the clamps I realized I have a slight problem with the front slab.  <br />
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On one end there is a gap between two of the boards that I can see light through that runs about 6-8 inches.   I will be cutting off some of this but I dont think that will be more then 5 inches.  So on the final size I expect that this area will still be included.<br />
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Looks like there was some snipe causing a high spot right at the end of one of the boards keeping them slightly apart.  That and probably not enough clamping pressure.<br />
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Is this something that I need to address?  I figure pouring additional PVA glue into this gap will not do much, as PVA is not gap filling and wont bond to itself when dry.  I have epoxy and am figuring I could fill the crack with this.  <br />
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Any other suggestions?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Additional Lumber Needed</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6595-additional-lumber-needed/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
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Received another pair of 11" wide 8/4 ash boards yesterday which had (last Friday) been skip planed and ripped to 5 1/2". When I loaded them into the shop last night I decided to check their moisture content with my Ligno. The meter read ~8.2% at 3/4" - just a half a percent above the boards that are in my shop now and have been for 3 months.<br />
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Does anyone see any reason why I can't work these boards this weekend? I need to remill my long stretchers - my jointer fence was out of square - didn't notice until after I was finished.<br />
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Adam]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[We're not at home to Mr Cock-Up]]></title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6542-were-not-at-home-to-mr-cock-up/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Ok so time to bare all and spill the beans on the cock-ups you make as you go through the build.  And hopefully the ways you get round them.<br />
I shall start, with probably not the first of mine.<br />
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I got to the glue up stage with dog strip and on checking the squareness of the end of the dog strip, nearest to the vice end, (yes after it was glued) found that it was not.  Square that is.  Problem stems from the chop saw being slightly out,  That hadn't mattered until this point.<br />
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So to get over it I set up some blocks on either side of the top and used a fence to rout the end of the dog strip square again.<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>End cap template problem</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6584-end-cap-template-problem/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I was working on the end-cap and did a test fit, just to make sure that I had drilled all my holes correctly (my drill press isn't the most accurate, but usually within "specification"). What I found was an extremely tight fit, so tight that I wouldn't be able to turn the screw. I investigate a bit and found that the milled Benchcraft parts are not in alignment with the boring template. The template is printed correctly to scale.<br />
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I lined up the left screw hole with the template. You can see that the right screw hole is off by 1/16".<br />
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I drew a pencil circle around the middle hole and when removing the milled part you can see that it's clearly no centered around the center point of the drilling. Left and right seems to work, but it's moved down from center.<br />
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Thoughts? Options? Recovery?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>v10 Plans: What Changed?</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6378-v10-plans-what-changed/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Marc & Aaron,<br />
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Can you list secifics as to what changed between the v10 Sketchup drawings and the v9?<br />
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Thanks!<br />
Adam<br />
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Update: Just saw the "Note: Revisions in red"  <img src='http://woodtalkonline.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>milling - top glue up help</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6507-milling-top-glue-up-help/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Ok after my rough milling I realized that several of the boards are slightly twisted.  I used the second method so I am not sure if I just did not realize there was twist initially or if they twisted after milling. <br />
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My question is what to do next?  I am at 4.5 inches in width on each board and most boards have 1 7/8" thickness so I have some room to play with.  I could try re-milling some of the wood but I am not sure what I would end up with size wise, and I dont want to leave myself with no extra to mill off the slab.  I have a 12" jointer so I could glue up the slabs and joint and plain them afterwards.  They would just be hard to deal with.<br />
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Should I remill the boards or the slab.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Ok, I give in</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6451-ok-i-give-in/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I guess the sensible thing is to wait a while until I have some more experience and can build this bench right. The lure of the Benchcrafted site the Shcwarz's book was too much because I gave in last night and I'm bulding a Roubo anyway. I'll probably get the vise screws from Lie Nielsen or Veritas instead of the BC hardware; sexy as it is I just can't swing the good stuff anytime soon. I do have a problem that with no table saw, no jointer, no thickness planer, I think I've created a massive amount of work for myself. I got a Veritas bevel up jointer from my wife for christmas. That partially solved the milling problem and introduced a host of new sore spots in my shoulders and forearms.<br />
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Half of the back slab was done in about 4 hours of work and much frustration. Most of the boards wound up flat(ish), but significantly warped; after playing some Jenga they seem to clamp up fine in a dry fit with a good grain direction of flattening later (see the attached image). I'll probably glue them together two or three at a time just to make sure I'm bringing enough clamping pressure to bear. I'll call that step one and feel satisfied that I know more today than yesterday. Given how much time I have to spend on it, it may be done by late summer, maybe later. I forsee a few design changes that might come up, but I'll burn those bridges when I get there. I'm one the fence about doing a wagon vise too (I'm not sure I can pull that off). Round dog holes for sure.<br />
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So now the question.<br />
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Split top or not? How nightmareish is it going to be to level both slabs, by hand, across a gap like that? I think I'm already signing up for a lot of work in terms getting the slabs to a constant thickness with hand planes. It seems to me that even if I clamp them together for flattening, the non-glues seam is going to be hard to plane, particularly if I needed to work across the grain.<div id='attach_wrap' class=''>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Wanna help someone with the build? Reply here</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6114-wanna-help-someone-with-the-build-reply-here/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[A member posted that he's having difficulty getting over some hurdles with this build.  Likely there are others.<br />
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As many are already well advanced on their project, they could likely help someone stuck a little ways back.  I'm guessing most of the needed help is in the form of jointing/planing stock be it by electricity, ATP, or frenzied beavers.<br />
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So, if you want to put yourself out there to possibly help out, reply to this thread.  Someone stuck can find someone in this thread and PM them to see if they can help out with whatever hurdle is in the way.  <em class='bbc'>To the requestors,</em> be sure to put some detail in any query.  And also: it is to get over a hurdle, not get side-by-side mentoring for the rest of the build <img src='http://woodtalkonline.com/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /><br />
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I'm not doing the build, but if someone needs some help with something, I'm in Chandler, AZ.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Dogstrip Accent Wood</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6420-dogstrip-accent-wood/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am thinking of using a different wood species for the dog strip to add a little contrast to the bench.  I was wondering if anyone else is doing something similar or if you have any ideas/recommendations for what wood would be good.  I was thinking purpleheart, Jatoba, Paduk or mahogany.  Any issues with these woods or other recommendations.  I am aiming to get caught up with the build this week<br />
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Thanks<br />
KC]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Finally getting started</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6500-finally-getting-started/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I bought reclaimed floor boards a few months ago and started to clean them up. I hit a bit of motivational problem (I believed I didn't have enough boards long enough for the rear slab - and the shop needed changes, since the boards were so long) but finally started to work on it again last week - after watching the videos on the guild website.<br />
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Now I have my rear slab done and final dimensioned. Looking good. I will do the front slab in the next few days and should be able to catch up with the videos probably next weekend. It's fun to be in the shop again and the douglas fir looks and smells really nice.<br />
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Reclaimed Old Growth Douglas Fir. Cleanup cost me 1 tablesaw blade - I missed a screw and 1 set of jointer blades (missed a nail). I removed a small tupperware box full of nails and screws, but the 2 I missed were tough enough.<br />
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With the tongue and groove remove the boards were 5" wide. I cut off 1/2" on the bandsaw and then planed the rest. Stopped at 4 1/8". Final assembled, after clean up is just shy of 4" - should have stopped at 4 1/4".<br />
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A little squeeze out. It cleaned up without a problem <img src='http://woodtalkonline.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Hand planing was real fun.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Need a suggested router bit list</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6498-need-a-suggested-router-bit-list/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-size: 18px;'>Hi guys, My router bit collection is limited what router bits do I need to finish this project size dimensions etc.   thanks</span>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Going Mobile</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6224-going-mobile/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I'm toying with the idea of either putting the bench on a mobile base or incorporating some casters that can be raised & lowered as neeeded in order to wheel the new bohemoth around my shop. Anyone else contemplating this? Am I crazy?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Benchcrafted Orders</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/5065-benchcrafted-orders/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to give everyone a heads up...<br />
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I ordered the hardware package for the split-top yesterday, and they said it will be about a month before it ships.  You have to imagine as more Guilders place their orders the wait will only get longer.  So order your stuff!<br />
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BTW, very prompt and courteous responses from Benchcrafted.<br />
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I can't wait to start this build!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Over my head</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6112-over-my-head/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Well I determined today that I'm in over my head with the work bench project. I thought I would be able to tackle it but it's clearly not the case. I was able to get the lumber for the top from a local yard that had 8/4 skip planed. I thought that would give me ahead start since I don't have a jointer. I've worked on one board all day and what do I have to show for it??? A 97" board that has no intention on being square or flat. 8/4 is just to big for me to handle, I had high hopes, but it looks like I should just stick with the little stuff. <img src='http://woodtalkonline.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Dog Hole Question</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6463-dog-hole-question/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I routed out my dog holes with a 3/4" diameter routerbit, therefore the curved portion does not have the called for 1/2" diameter curvature.<br />
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Is this going to cause a problem, do I need to redo them with a smaller bit or will it be OK to leave them that way?<br />
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David Smith]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>solid slab ash  for my roubo</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6165-solid-slab-ash-for-my-roubo/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[well after looking at the plans ive rethought my order for wood instead of buying 8/4 ash and jointing and gluing the top and legs together im going to get the top in 2 slabs of ash.<br />
so heres my lumber list <br />
1-12" x 5" x 100" slab<br />
1-8.5"x 5" x 100" slab<br />
for the 2 top pieces<br />
2-6"x 4" x 100"<br />
for the legs<br />
1-10"x 3" x 100" for the vise and end cap<br />
and 8- 8" x 8/4 x 100" for the rest<br />
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i have a sawmill that i deal with that can get most any lumber i need very cheap the ash is going to cost $1.86bf <br />
Thoughts?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Endcap Question</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question about the 1 5/8 in router bore on the end cap that houses the flange/washer .  What is the purpose of that washer and is it critical that the coutnerbore be perfectly sized and flat on the bottom.  Mine got a bit mangles on one side so the washer is a bit loose and doesn't always seat perpendicular to the screw for the vise.  I trial fit it and it seems to work fine but before I continue I wanted to make sure there are no huge issues anyone sees.  I hope I don't have to make another end cap as it fits very nicely.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Bell Forest Products Lumber Package</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone - I'm a relative newbie to woodworking and am thinking about tackling the Roubo build.   I'm a little behind the eight ball here, but happy to join to party!<br />
<br />
There are two main lumber mills here in NH and the cost of 8/4 soft maple is around $4.20bf.   Given the the prices that Bell Forest is offering for the build, it seems relatively comparable assuming that they provide decent lumber.   Seeing that they work with Marc, I would assume that they offer decent product.  <br />
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Has anyone out there used them as a source for lumber for this build or other projects?  They also are offering the option of planed lumber as well as straight line ripped which is a little attractive to me.   Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Alternatives to the Benchcrafted Tail Vise??</title>
		<link>http://woodtalkonline.com/topic/6360-alternatives-to-the-benchcrafted-tail-vise/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I really like the Benchcrafted Tail Vise, but I just can not see paying that much money for one vise. I realize that it is supposed to be very smooth and all, but I had rather make a not-so-smooth vise into a smooth vise by lapping the threads, than to spend that kind on money on the tail vise. I do want it to function just like the benchcrafter tail vise though. Most of the tail vises that I have seen look as though they are made specifically to move the should or end cap instead of moving a dog block. I may have to machine my own parts to make it. If someone has any ideas, I would love to hear them.<br />
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Remember: I want the dog block to move and not the end cap or shoulder.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Rear Top Width</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After much work in the evening this week I got all my boards for the top milled up and I am jazzed they came out pretty square and flat  Given the length of the boards I am counting that a pretty good success.  <br />
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Maybe this is being overly nitpicky but given the expense of the project it terms of my time and money I wanted to get everyones opinion before I drive on<br />
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I milled up all my top boards and the width of the rear table with 7 boards is 10 7/8 or 1/4 shy of the plan dimensions.  I think I have 2 choices.  The easiest is to leave it at that and make the gap stop a 1/4 inch thicker.<br />
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The other choice is to either get another 8/8 board or mill the smallest board down some more and get an eight piece of 4/4 maple  <br />
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Any recommendations as the best coarse of action.  <br />
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Thanks]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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